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	<title>Comments on: This is not Art.</title>
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		<title>By: etscompany</title>
		<link>http://oaktownart.com/2010/01/31/this-is-not-art/#comment-915</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a huge difference between graffiti as art and the graffiti that was on those buildings.  That is not art, its destruction of private property.  And should be removed as fast as these taggers put them up.  The faster and cleaner your property is and remains the less likey you will be hit again. A diligent building owner who removes garbage like this is less likey to get tagged again.  It&#039;s all about rep for these guys and bragging rights.  If their tags get removed totally and fast they will go else where to where their rep can be seen.. 

Fast removal and information about graffiti removal and testimonials can be found here:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a huge difference between graffiti as art and the graffiti that was on those buildings.  That is not art, its destruction of private property.  And should be removed as fast as these taggers put them up.  The faster and cleaner your property is and remains the less likey you will be hit again. A diligent building owner who removes garbage like this is less likey to get tagged again.  It&#8217;s all about rep for these guys and bragging rights.  If their tags get removed totally and fast they will go else where to where their rep can be seen.. </p>
<p>Fast removal and information about graffiti removal and testimonials can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.taginator.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.taginator.com/</a></p>
<p>Blogs can be viewed here about graffiti </p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://oaktownart.com/2010/01/31/this-is-not-art/#comment-209</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know... I was talking in generalizations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know&#8230; I was talking in generalizations.</p>
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		<title>By: studiodeb333</title>
		<link>http://oaktownart.com/2010/01/31/this-is-not-art/#comment-208</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like I (and others) said, the folks who did this weren&#039;t &lt;em&gt;from&lt;/em&gt; this neighborhood.  The problem is how &lt;em&gt;others&lt;/em&gt; seemingly have no problem defacing poor neighborhoods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I (and others) said, the folks who did this weren&#8217;t <em>from</em> this neighborhood.  The problem is how <em>others</em> seemingly have no problem defacing poor neighborhoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://oaktownart.com/2010/01/31/this-is-not-art/#comment-207</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It never ceases to sadly amaze me how poor neighborhoods deface where they live. In the Stevie Wonder song Livin&#039; For The City he comments that the girl&#039;s dress is old but never dirty. Some people have that sense of pride, and that is fantastic. Others &quot;shit where they sleep&quot;, to use a phrase I used to hear a lot when I lived down near International and 23rd -- a phrase to distinguish the unsavory homeless from the respectful homeless.

And I know it&#039;s easy for me to say. I have a roof over my head. I am gainfully employed. I have a sense of self. I have not been beaten down by poverty. I have not been disillusioned by the prospect of a life expectancy that doesn&#039;t quite reach to 30. But I do not understand wrecking your own home and neighborhood. I do not get how it builds anyone up to shit where you sleep. It goes against self-preservation (and, arguably, against human nature).

But whatever the interpretation of the behavior, I think that there is no way that this is art, or even artistic expression. And anyone who considers otherwise is just plain wrong; this isn&#039;t a case where we each need to respect each others opinion. Just because a behavior has become commonplace does not mean it&#039;s okay. If it were, lynching would still be an acceptable form of free speech, and beating your wife would be legal provided the switch you used was thinner than your thumb. QED.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never ceases to sadly amaze me how poor neighborhoods deface where they live. In the Stevie Wonder song Livin&#8217; For The City he comments that the girl&#8217;s dress is old but never dirty. Some people have that sense of pride, and that is fantastic. Others &#8220;shit where they sleep&#8221;, to use a phrase I used to hear a lot when I lived down near International and 23rd &#8212; a phrase to distinguish the unsavory homeless from the respectful homeless.</p>
<p>And I know it&#8217;s easy for me to say. I have a roof over my head. I am gainfully employed. I have a sense of self. I have not been beaten down by poverty. I have not been disillusioned by the prospect of a life expectancy that doesn&#8217;t quite reach to 30. But I do not understand wrecking your own home and neighborhood. I do not get how it builds anyone up to shit where you sleep. It goes against self-preservation (and, arguably, against human nature).</p>
<p>But whatever the interpretation of the behavior, I think that there is no way that this is art, or even artistic expression. And anyone who considers otherwise is just plain wrong; this isn&#8217;t a case where we each need to respect each others opinion. Just because a behavior has become commonplace does not mean it&#8217;s okay. If it were, lynching would still be an acceptable form of free speech, and beating your wife would be legal provided the switch you used was thinner than your thumb. QED.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Allstadt</title>
		<link>http://oaktownart.com/2010/01/31/this-is-not-art/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Allstadt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope. Not art.  

Arrogant hipster bullshit.  

Territorial pissing.  

Cheap thrills at the expense of the residents of a poor neighborhood.  

All too often when white men in their 20s from San Francisco come to a party in Oakland, they act like they&#039;re in a wasteland and show absolutely no respect to the people who live here.  It&#039;s bullshit.  Tag corporate property if you want.  Tag government property all you want.  But if I see some hipster douchebag tagging a private home or a small business, particularly in my &#039;hood, I&#039;m gonna step in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. Not art.  </p>
<p>Arrogant hipster bullshit.  </p>
<p>Territorial pissing.  </p>
<p>Cheap thrills at the expense of the residents of a poor neighborhood.  </p>
<p>All too often when white men in their 20s from San Francisco come to a party in Oakland, they act like they&#8217;re in a wasteland and show absolutely no respect to the people who live here.  It&#8217;s bullshit.  Tag corporate property if you want.  Tag government property all you want.  But if I see some hipster douchebag tagging a private home or a small business, particularly in my &#8216;hood, I&#8217;m gonna step in.</p>
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